I'll drop theramoore being neutral once you stop this bullcrap about the sunreavers.They weren't neutral, they were so obivously horde-aligned it's ridiculous.
The questline shows you a scene of the horde forces joining the hozen in a flashback implying it occured before the waterspeaking ceremony. We can take the increased Hozen agressiveness even before this to be an effect of the horde's influence, i've only taken the logical route.
Sigh, the "Flashback" was a story from the "Pickle" Dude, maybe it's better described as a "Debrief" but what have you, it shows that the horde have armed the hozen. and it's a flashback scene.
Lor'thamir For Leader of the Horde! I swear if Garrosh remains leader I'm rerolling Alliance.... on all of my toons, even if I have to delete and start from lvl 1True Story!
The Jinyu bears a striking resemblance to the night elves, height, posture, the way they walk etc. I think that the Lorewalker who told the tale about Murlocs finding a magic well and evolved from bathing in it lied.I think the answer to the question about the Jinyu origin involves captured Murlocs and Night Elves being bored for weeks aboard Alliance ships. And it aint their first time they got bored and turned their attention to denizens of the ocean, just look at the Naga.Well, that was not the topic at hand, but its a proof beyond reasonable doubt that the Alliance are the real culprits in the horde vs alliance conflict. If the alliance are capable of such bizarre acts to crossbreed with Murlocs to raise an army, who knows what they are capable of?
I'll also add, if not thrall, then Saurfang for Warchief!
after reading an entire argument between alliance and horde, all i have to say is the only reason the horde, or just orcs really, ever attacked the alliance was because of some a-hole demon, and then tauren and trolls joined them to help orcs settle in their new world, even after the demon was killed, and orcs freed, the alliance never forgave them.And the bloodelves had help from the Naga or some $%^&, (too lazy to look it up) and the alliance went all doucebaggy about that too, so they joined horde.And the forsaken were once Human, but after being all dead and junk, they were forsaken from the alliance, explains the name a bit, which is why they hate the alliance also, and joined the horde.And they goblins just got caught up in some si7 thing, attacking Thrall, who was no longer even warchief or even part of the horde very much anymore. and they joined the horde because they also had no where else to goMost of the horde does not want war, they are all together to stay safe against the Alliance. The Alliance are just $%^&*!@s who just can't forgive and forget &*!@. also, garrosh is a &*!@#$, most of the horde does not like him or anything he does, hence this thing we're commenting on lolololMeow.
wait.what.Seriously, what.The orcs more or less started the 4th war because they liked it. Thrall wasn't really all that good at keeping them back (As warsong hold shows). Garrosh just gave them free rein, and when they liked that Garrosh being the impressionable idiot he was, thought warmonger=good. he also went mad with power, but that's a different thing.
The first stone you say?The first stone that your warsong threw AGES ago. have you even realized?Varian only did what was right, shame this isn't a RTS or the only place the orcish language would be spoken in would be outland.