They counted out that if you had full epic gear including weapons,rings etc so it would take 6 full months to uppgrade full if you capped every week, so why is it so bad then? so i dont really understand why it is a big dealExactly. By the time you've worked to upgrade half your gear (doing stuff every day) you assumedly would have obtained at LEAST half upgrades through drops. (Assuming you're raiding everything consistently with 100% success per week... yeah right)Except some people get boned through RNG, don't want to/can't do this every night.I have had some great guilds with really easy-going people, but a few of them were min-maxxers but liked our attitude, while I was more casual and also stuck around because we were a good group. If you put a game-forced divide between the players, and make them unable to stay on the same page with each other it ruins the game.You can be hardcore with your character and raid with a laid back group. Similarly, you can be lazy with your character and raid with these guys.The game as it is now requires everyone to do the same things to keep up, instead of being a rough guideline (think rep factions in wrath, and how it was a bonus but no single/few things were necessary, but you worked toward them without feeling pressured)The OCD guys who do dailies every day just because now gets ahead of the people he's raided with, so he feels held back, but doesn't want to leave his friends.The others feel behind and overwhelmed doing things they don't want to do simply to maintain the status quo of raiding with the same group of people.Different people should be able to enjoy the game together. Character gearing, duration based mechanics shouldn't be dividing people this way.
Wait so there is no new things on the gear for Locks that's not kewl at all. They get bashed so much. I miss BC dayz where I was the terror of the pvp world.
Now that we can't buy Valor Gear with the Same Ilvl as Normal Mode Raid Dungeons the only way around this was to gather up as much 489 and 2X upgrade it to 497 (+1 ilvl over Normal Mode Raids) In rder to maintain a respctable ilvl without raiding normal mode raids.Without the Item upgrader the gap you should be worrying about is the one between the cauals and the Raiders.It only serves to breed elitism and ensure that those who can't raid will never be close to having gear of the same quality of those that can raid.And here I was thinking you had decided to move away form this thinking.Seriously, what do you need normal raid gear for if you don't raid? Stop thinking. You don't need it! Heroic/LFR gear is sufficient for questing, dailys, whatever.If you really feel that you NEED the normal raid gear for your inferiority complex go kill raidbosses or see a psychologist.
Great. nature damage.Can't they ever realise paladins are about holy dps?
Blzz..... stop adding sooo many new pets unles your going to make the stable bigger. I love collecting every rare pet but being i have all the Wotlk spirit beasts and all cata rare pets (except ahnka) i dont have room for all these new ones T.THave to agree, I now have all nine of the WotLK and Cata spirit beasts plus Chromaggus, so 10 of the 25 total are currently taken by BM specific pets. I have other pets for when I switch specs, I've got a couple slots empty for some Pandaren specific pets, then, amongst the 151 new rares they added in 5.1 were some nice new looks I'd like to add to my stable. Now they're adding 3 new spirit beasts and there's the new dinosaurs coming in 5.2! There's simply no room for all the pets I'd like to tame! :(I'm also curious as to why they're adding three spectral porcupines, I'd have thought one would have been fine plus maybe a spectral crane and a spectral Pandaren tiger for some variety. *shrug*I actually have a semi-answered response for this one that was answered during the Blue Q+A on reddit, I believe.They said they're not planning on adding new stable slots because they want hunters to 'chose their pets' not 'fill up a stable and collect them'. It sounds like a stupid response, but it's the most we're going to get at the moment. :/ I already dismissed half of my spirit beasts and other rare pets to make room for pets that I also love the look of.
the spirit beasts are a cool pet but a porcupine... i would have to say its not the best pet to make a spirit beast but hey other people have there own likes and i can see many people will just tame it just cause... as a hunter i love that BM can have its own special kinda of pets it gives more variety in each hunter you see, hate how people complain about not being able to get spirit beasts but anyone who is BM doesnt get explosive shot etc it all evens out..also the item upgrade npc's, i thought they wer great and taking them away will suck cause as anyone can have the same gear but have upgraded armor which makes them be able to put out more dps,healing etc taking that away will take away the differences between same classes...
So ok you people are srsly going on about spectral pets when Blizzard is taking away the item upgrade npc's because they think the player base is too stupid to figure out how to spend their valor?GG player base. I understand why this has to be done if you people are so hung up on a pet.So everyone on this thread must QQ about the thing (and only the thing) that you want to QQ about? Being dissatisfied with the new pets doesn't mean people don't care about item upgrades (and it certainly doesn't mean that they're stupid), they just wanted to say something about the pets. I believe that's their right. It's not like there's going to be this terrible shortage of people whining about the lack of item upgrades - believe me, you'll have plenty of company. If you were smart, you'd just skip over comments that don't seem relevant to you, rather than waste your time ripping other people for caring about something you don't care about.
There are three new spirit beasts on the PTR--spectral porcupines.Cool.. i love to collect new pets. These look rather amazing. Tab feature like mounts, would be great.. hint hint.agreed and /signed
i feel like they pushing us shamans to go elemental as i see elemental getting buffed and enhancement just staying there or gettin small nerf that is just my opnion though i hope they dont make elemental over-shadow enhancement as i love the dual-wielding aspect of enhancement
Not a big fan of the porcupines, they look nifty, but I wasn't feeling it when I tried one on my hunter, so I'll definitely be passing on taming one of these should I see one. I do think a spectral crane could be nifty though. Or heck, a spectral turtle would be awesome.
I think it would *maybe* help if Blizz realized for a moment that the world has changed since warcraft began, as has the WoW Azeroth. You may have begun with teenage boys but now have everyone from children to grandparents playing and everyone's lives have become more of a Tiime as a Precious Commodity. This is behind many peoples complaints about what they have to do with their time ingame in order to do what they want ingame. Like all the preparatory stuff. I am now watching my first grandchild and helping out with some of my children's things as well as being an older person and all life entails. My kids talked me into playing wow and it has had some interesting side benefits, as after a disabling injury I lost some motor function and brain function. Hand eye coordination is being aided by playing wow. and left and right brains talking to each other better again. In fact I have met many players who have handicaps or who are older adults. But I get dismayed that sometimes I cannot complete ONE set of dailies on ONE character per day and if I DO, then I don't get anything else done in the game. not because I dont' want to, but because for someone like me it isn't humanly possible. I would suggest that they begin easing you into dailies from level 86 in pandaria so you aren't hit with them all at once! I've been a couple of flights away from a dragon mount for weeks, and because I plant and harvest on one toon, I dont get one other set of dailies done. Life is speeding up, people have less and less time, and prefer to spend that time, especially in a game where we can unwind and socailize etc...in ways that are the most fun for them. i dont want to have to spend it all on one set of dailies towards one goal. So don't denigrate that as being "lazy" or "you just want the rewards without doing the work" that is a very one-dimensional answer from what appears to be a rather shallow person. Its a complex world, and complex and diverse group of wow users. Many smaller games offer options of how you want to play the game, and in some respects WoW does so without you having to make an official declaration, but you pay for it in terms of loss of ability, loss of raiding, loss of gearing up, etc. if you don't invest more of the aforementioned Precious Commodity ie Time...in this already time-sucking game. I can do all the things I want to do if I dont do anything else in life...and I have met a few people in wow who have actually taken that route and got so invested in the game that they lost relationships, or lost jobs, friends, money, etc. Obviously the game while it doesnt' create addicts, tends to attract people who have addictive tendencies, and in that respect could be compared to gambling or drugs but catches the ones with technologicial addictions. I have been playing three years, for a year there most of my wakign time, and still have parts of vanilla on up, that I haven't done yet or seen yet. I have only on one toon done lich king and one who did part of cata endgame.
For those complaining about daily grinding on alts..Many factions have no benefit to grind to exalted on more than one toon(shieldwall, shado pan). If you consider the double rep bonus commendations and that most of the factions only have to be ground to revered, its not really a big deal. Some of those would even be done just doing the quests that go to them.
so more pets we cant use unless we are in b.m considering the fact i only play survival makes it not interesting in even keeping them and they put all these new pets up and no place to really keep them stable gets full you see more pets you want and you have to delete some to make room for more long story short blizz why not let hunters tame in what ever spec they choose it would be so much easier than having to keep switching back and forth cause you can only tame the pretty pets in bmCheer up! You can still get the Dire Horns :3
WOW....were to start....I am so far behind on raiding etc.....mostly because my main focus has been and will continue to be professions. Yes I know weird.....BUT I am finding not all dailies are the same. Each faction has different amount of "points" given. From tillers to celestial these totals are very different. To get a tailor to be able to make the 28 slot bag you have to be exalted with celestial and can not even start on this until you get revered with golden lotus.Given it gets easier for the enchanter alt but it is still weeks if not month(s) of grinding. I play daily, have 4 90s at the moment, my first hour is to do tillers mote planting so I can make steel, cloth for bags if I ever get the pattern, and for my bs to make armor. Then I grind golden on my tailor and now on my enchanter. This is at least another hour. Then I do celestial dailies on my tailor and soon on my enchanter. This has been going on for two weeks. My hope is by the end of the month I may finally get to make these oversized bags. To finally be able to have the wrist enchantments......but yes this is a grind and stops me from doing regular looking for dungeon runs or scenarios. I started with 9 85s.....yes I have no life :) I started off slow as there was so many different directions to go.....I actually got frustrated with the game and considered not playing anymore. Thank god for guildees :) Like many I use wowhead for info when I can not find or figure something out. it is a god sent (for years). I figure if things go right about the time the next expansion comes out I will be ready to raid this one.....I guess I could go to just one toon, but which? I have one of everything but a dk (got two druids). so yes raise the points per daily, at least level them all out. It should not take months to be able to make an item IMO. It is bad enough the high lw patterns need mats you can only get from reg raids but this I am used to. sorry for the vent but this had to be said....I know most players do not care for this side of the game but I find it more satisfying and fun than just hack and slash alone.
bull.....the 4 professions that need to be grinded out are tailoring, blacksmithing, letherworking, enchanting.tailoring and enchanting have to be grinded out via 2 different factions. then you have to grind out for tillers and order of the cloud serpent (if you wish to cook or fly serpents).then add lorewalkers if you want the cloud ride. If I had the time I could probably also give you the count for each daily.....but they are different depending on faction.yes you get a bonus once you get one toon to revered. BUT I can tell you it is a grind for the first toon......then half a grind for those after.....For those who have jc's we got used to doing dailies to get the cuts and then buying patterns from ah..
LFR requires you to have ilvl460, which you can get by completing all the Dread Wastes quests, some Townlong Steppes rewards, and if you're still lacking gear for some reason: heroics/scenarios. You don't need to dailies to get in.No offence but this is just wrong :pIt should be like this;you can get 460 ilvl by doing hcs/scenarios and if you still unlucky you can buy the gear you need.I just lvled my alt to 90 and did hcs like crazy for 3-4 days,lucky with most loots and upped nearly all of them and still ended up 468(could only join MsV lfr this week with no loot drop waiting valor to buy item and able to join HoF and ToES).Dunno what game he is playing but doing all Dread Waste and Townlong is nowhere enough to end at 460ilvl.
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LFR requires you to have ilvl460, which you can get by completing all the Dread Wastes quests, some Townlong Steppes rewards, and if you're still lacking gear for some reason: heroics/scenarios. You don't need to dailies to get in.No offence but this is just wrong :pIt should be like this;you can get 460 ilvl by doing hcs/scenarios and if you still unlucky you can buy the gear you need.I just lvled my alt to 90 and did hcs like crazy for 3-4 days,lucky with most loots and upped nearly all of them and still ended up 468(could only join MsV lfr this week with no loot drop waiting valor to buy item and able to join HoF and ToES).Dunno what game he is playing but doing all Dread Waste and Townlong is nowhere enough to end at 460ilvl.This is so correct. Only the blue rewards at the end of chains are high and even then are 450. So if you had ALL blues (which none of MY characters did) you'd still be at 450 average item level. "To help ensure we’re not indirectly encouraging anyone to spend their currency somewhere they probably shouldn’t, the item upgraders will be taking a break."Instead we'll be forcing you to spend them where we think you should.....
Indeed, porcupines are becoming an obsession. Porcupette? Spectral new porcs? Spectral porc pets? Hello Porcy Adventure?I hope Draztal is getting paid enough. He is working big overtime trying to look like a clown and keeping his sanity at it. I mean, really, blues used to post one ass-stupid reply for one thread, and leave players with their deserved qq. He posts so many times?He really reminds me of some other blue, don't quite remember his name... some yeti... Grimmiku or something. The one whose job is to pretend he is a noob hobo who is so bad and stuff and illustrates all the idiocy players are facing and he enjoys it. And if a blue enjoys it - so must players! Period.Honestly, I don't see the problem with Cata\\WotLK tabards. You get what you work for. You want to cover rep asap, like I prefer dedicating, let's say, one day to grind one faction, by doing dungeon runs, grinding mobs, maybe doing some dailies, and then be off with it (for example I blasted from friendly to exalted with Skettis in less than 2 days)- go ahead! Roll your alt to exalted, roll old\\whichever faction to exalted with some dedication. Complain after? F*ck you. Yes, f*ck you. Simple as that. Otherwise you will just do daily dungeons and get same daily rep, as fast as you want it. And, most importantly, independent of rep progress.I do. I enjoy them, I find them useful to do something outside my daily dungeon/raid routine. I've only stopped running them once I've hit exalted with all Pandaria factions to instead run scenarios, old raids and PVP.Exactly. Everybody did. Even I breathed with deep relief when I finally covered all the ass-f*cked reputations. They became unbearable after revered. Because nothing changes. NOTHING. No new quests, no better ways to get rep, NOTHING. NO effing thing.I like two things though - the commendation approach, but that's just obvious solution; and 5.1 reps. Their overabundant storyline quests provided enough "free-rep" in between dailies to make progress smooth. Revered>Exalted was actually faster than Honored>Revered.Even with commendations, it's still retarded to do dailies on alts. Why do I have to re-do these f*cking August Celestial 3-4 quests a day for over two weeks now? Can't there be any damn way for an alt to break this repetitive approach? Why? because August has Royal Satchel!Shado-pan is somewhat fine, when exalted rewards were nerfed to revered, as you start off at honored+ after zone clear, and then it's 3-4 days to hit revered.But even then - to get there you need to waste yourself over and over Golden Lotus. Storywise, main-character progression wise - sure. God damn sure. Make us waste time on GL before new reps. But god, why ALTS? What @#$% do they give about additional rep requirement, when I just want a choice of gear to best spend VP on to get 460-470-480ilvl?Cloud Serpent is just... well, voluntary. It's not as painful as Nether drakes were, but it's still is a retarded multi-requirement faction for sole purpose of flying. I wouldn't give a damn about not being able to fly a CS on alt, but if you have some REAL cloud serpent(sha or elegon, or at least alani), then why not reduce rep requirement to honored, or again revered? If everything is so account-bound, why does every alt have to grow his OWN egg, when you most likely already have bought all the serpents for gold, simply for collection?Oh, please. The solution to Cataclysm problems, if you look at what's been added since then (4.0), is:-Pet Battles, Scenarios, Raid Finder, Daily quest reputations, Item Upgrades, The Tillers farm (and how you can use it for Cooking), Brawlers Guild, Black Market Auction House, World Bosses. However, there are tons of things to discover in Mists if you go out and explore.The devs has places all sorts of cool and interesting treasures out in the world.I've had some great times just flying and riding around in Pandaria exploring.Who gives a F*CK? We are talking about dailies! Not how to feed your ass with clyster. Why, some people enjoy reselling 100500 gold worth TCG items. Some grind their mind off to sell a new LW item for 50-100k. Some spend weeks to get their minfernal or cap Nat Pagle.Why would I give a %^&* about their routine, when we are talking about every. player. forced mandatory. activity?And it will remain so, no matter how much Blizzard tells us to raid\\LFR instead or not give a damn, as long as VP items are bound to reps, everyone will do them. Hardcore raiders are forced to get every littest 0.1% ugprade, casuals favor VP ilvl more than LFR.You force us, and you play us idiots. Not cool, totally not cool.
Dailies are a terrible excuse for content or timesinks, as are arbritrary reputation grinds with out-dated in a month rewards.The only exception to this was Isle of Quel'Danas.Nothing else will suffice, no matter how hard you attempt to shove it up everyone's...throats or deny how tedious doing the same crap 25x a day on five characters is.