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Quesac
Go hit a raid and tell me where you wound up on the DPS charts. You'll be surprised at how many classes are just as good as the mage in terms of DPS. I have yet to break top 5 in a LFR. I'm sure some of it has to do with gear, but very seldom do I see a mage in the top 5, let alone the top gun.
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nickseng
Go hit a raid and tell me where you wound up on the DPS charts. You'll be surprised at how many classes are just as good as the mage in terms of DPS. I have yet to break top 5 in a LFR. I'm sure some of it has to do with gear, but very seldom do I see a mage in the top 5, let alone the top gun.
It's very hard to measure for LFR, because your group is never the same. Sometimes you're running againts the cream of the crop, and you will rank lower. Sometimes you're running with newbies, and you're no. 1. All in all, it probably doesn't mean much where you rank in LFR.
I will add though, I'm usually in the top dps in LFR, although locks tend to beat me.
Post by
wildrooster27
Cuz in raids people forget that AOE = is not equal so Single Target DPS.
Surv hunters have massive AOE, but VS 1 target all the AOE doesnt mean jack.
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Zakkhar
And actually, Mage DPS was horrible, only until Cataclysm were Mages good again, and that was after mass complaints from the Mage community. Mages aren't OP in PvP, but in PvE they have been top DPS since last expansion.
Mage dps was horrible pre-cata? Where do you got this info from?
Typically at the beginning of the vanilla and all expansions mages were number 1, than with the new tiers of gear and some changes other classes surpassed them, but they were still in top 5.
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xavierpjg
Well if your going strictly by dps charts i'm a lil disappointed in the mage atm, atleast arcane. I know during cata i was almost always number one. (Though i never ran lfr cause i was in a guild specifically for raiding) I realize i'm not maxed out on gear yet but compared the other classes I'm having a hard getting the dps up there. Casually i'm probally doing 35-45k and during burns i'm lucky to break 100k and i see ppl pullin 125k+. I'm still searchin the guides and going over my rotations but i mean dam.
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nickseng
I think for now, Arcane is a little hard to play. If you look at the logs, Arcane number are a little low in normals, but doing pretty good in heroics.
I derive 2 possible conclusions from this:
1. Arcane is gear-dependant, which i doubt.
2. Arcane is a lot trickier to play. I.e. You really have to know the fights, and all the tips and tricks to the spec.
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xavierpjg
My normal guild did a raid last night. There was another arc mage in there that was makin me mad. lol all 502 and 522 gear and he kept pullin atleast 75k. On top of that he never had a shield up (wierd). I dunno i'm about to check his glyphs and everything out now
Post by
Lordplatypus
Lets take a look
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Frost mage is still the top.
Post by
nickseng
Lets take a look
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Frost mage is still the top.
First of all, try not to use noxxic. It's not really that accurate.
The dps meter it uses? It pulls the ranking from simulationcraft, which the people who wrote/update the code have come out and said that it's not accurate.
If you don't believe me, all you had to do was look at the ranking in 5.1. It had Frost as the top dps.
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Zakkhar
Try
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot
instead. It doesnt measure the simulations, but the actual logs of actual players.
For example at
Mageara 10m normal
which is as Patchwerk style fight as possible, fire is slightly ahead.
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