Does anyone else wish there were more to MoP than dailies?

Post by ofLegends

I know, I know, dead horse.

I know Blizz wanted to get us out of the capital cities and give us something to do, but I just think this was the wrong way to go about doing it. In Cata, we didn't need to grind reps in order to be able to BUY valor point gear (this article describes how I feel about VP if anyone wants to read it). That was my main gripe about dailies at the beginning of MoP - stuff was hidden behind them.

Now, though, I think the problem with dailies is simply that there are too many of them. Yes, if dailies didn't exist, it would just be more of waiting in queues for dungeons, LFR, etc. But the sheer amount of dailies this expansion just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I had been going for pandaren ambassador and taking my time (I mean REALLY taking my time); I haven't even touched a rep that didn't exist at launch yet, nor have a gone near a daily in two weeks. I just feel like I keep hoping every patch that there will NOT be another rep. I want them to focus on something ELSE now; we already have enough dailies and reps to focus on.

Does anyone else feel like there's just way too many dailies/reps in MoP? As a bit of a completist, this drives me insane because I know I'll never touch them all - I just don't care enough.

I know, I don't "have to" do them. Hence the fact that I haven't done them all or any at all in 2 weeks. This is a discussion, not a trollfest.

Post by Adamsm

Grinding has been a part of WoW since Vanilla...and it was a thousand times worse back then.

However, that being said: I rarely find myself at a point where I go 'What should I do?' while playing in MoP. I know this is completely different from my time in Cata where I would log in for at most an hour a day then get bored as there wasn't enough to keep my interested.

In MoP though, I'm enjoying working on Achievements, hunting for Rare spawns, hunting for Battle Pets, working on keeping myself in raid supplies, having fun soloing Raids in the previous expansions(Brewmaster Monks are gods), running LFR's for fun and profit, gearing up to help my guild, working with my fellow guild mates on challenges and raid achievements.

I also love the fact that as you do the dailies of MoP, you unlock story lines, unlock new things to do and just plain unlock a crap ton of new stuff. Watching the steady reclaiming of the Vale from the Mogu, freeing the the Klaxxi's and seeing the grand secret of the Mantid, cleaning up the Farm and making allies of all of the members of the Tillers...even the massive pain in the ass grind for Nat Pagle is still keeping me in the game and keeping my attention.

As for the completionist: I just hit 35 reps tonight, while getting the Black Prince and the Kirin Tor Offensive to Exalted. The only Pandaren reps I have left are Pagle and the Shado-Pan assault, and I have to do Shado-Pan Mon Challenge mode and do the Yanguol dailies without getting hit by anything.

Really, since they've add in the Rep tokens and the Work orders on the Farm, it's gotten even easier to get your rep up, so feeling like you 'have' to is a big much. Just enjoy the journey, which is what the Pandarens keep telling us to do.

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Post by MikadoGG

And there is. There's also raiding, pvp, achievement hunting, rare spawns, pet battles/collecting, lfr, professions, farming. I really prefer this model to the old: "Let's just float in Dalaran/Org/SW on our mounts while afking and doing something else." I actually have a million things to do when I log on, part of them are dailies. Once you finish a specific rep to exalted you don't have to ever touch those dailies again and with the addition of commendations at revered most reputations go by so fast nowadays.

TBH, you said it yourself, OP, it's a dead horse. We get topics about dailies daily here, on official forums, on mmochamp forums etc. I say if you hate dailies and you dislike MOP, you know where the door is. Plenty of us are enjoying ourselves.

Post by Adamsm

Grinding has been a part of WoW since Vanilla...and it was a thousand times worse back then.
That isn't the point of this discussion, and adds nothing at all.Never said it was; merely stating that the Grind is a part of these games.
There's now so much to do that it almost feels like if I don't do it all, I'm being lazy or falling behind. There's TOO much to do, and it's overwhelming.Not really; it's just a matter of time management, but even then: It's your play time, do what you want, which you've already said you do.
I just think they should stop adding more for a few patches maybe. Focus that time that would be spent on dailies into something else.Considering that they are tying in the story lines to the dailies, not gonna happen. It's 'easier' for Blizzard to go the daily route rather then the original zerg the instances for rep route they had in Wrath and Cata. Would it be nice to put in specific rep for some of the MoP instances, like how BC was set up? Of course.

I just hit 35 reps tonight,
40. I didn't say it was hard to get rep up. Again, this isn't a complaint thread. I'm trying to see if anyone else feels like I do.Never said it was hard; you asked if people wished there was more to MoP, and I gave my current play experience.

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Post by Bertel

Short answer: No!

I actually like that there is something besides raids and dungeons to do at max level.

Could you please elaborate on what that "something else", as you so vaguely describe it, should be?

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Post by UnholyDeciever

I hate dailies, I really only bother with them for mounts.

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Post by lonewarrior

The fact that there is so much to do these days is a positive thing in my view.
The current genre of WoW players need to be weened off of the fact that they need to accomplish and acquire everything in one session.
Not speaking about you directly, but you can read on the main forum, the whining about dailies and LFR loot drops that Blizz said would increase and players thinking it meant like ripe fruit from a tree.
The feeling "what should I do today?" from a myriad of choices is much better then that same feeling come from just a choice or two.

The dailies are out there for players who want to choose that path. I for one, didn't touch them until the recent patch.
I'm not a fan of gear buying and still managed to raise my ilevel to 485, but then I'm not under the gun to acquire gear for normal/heroic runs either.
Now I farm Black prince reps for the touched sha gem and with the reps coming heroic/scenario runs I am upping my shado-pan for the enchant formulas and the shado-pan assault from LFR ToT.
if dailies are a point of frustration for some players then perhaps they need to rearrange their playing priorities to get more fun out of what they are doing.

Post by Eccentrica

Disclaimer: So far this expac I've abandoned every toon once they hit 90 and have not yet touched MoP dailies.

I can appreciate how overwhelming it can all feel. I'm working on a fresh BNet account because I decided (foolishly?) that starting all over again made some kind of sense. You are looking at all the Mists reps that need to be grinded and I am behind you considering all the BC, Wrath, Cata and Mists reps that await grinding.

Really though, the expansion is only 6 months old. It is only 25% done. Why you feel rushed or that you'll never finish them all is beyond me.

Post by Azrile

I agree with you, I never liked dailies much and haven't done any in Pandaria. It's not so much the dailies, but the necessity of them that I don't like. If there was a viable alternate to grind rep with the other factions, or even in conjunction with dailies, I wouldn't care at all. But as it is now, the immense number of dailies makes WoW feel more like a job than a game.

None of them are necessary. I have character raiding TOT that has never done a single MoP daily.

The problem is not with the game, it is with your ability to see the big picture. You don´t NEED to have everything on every character, you don´t need to have every recipe (especially when the mats sell for more than the finished product)... you don´t have to have every vanity mount, you don´t have to have every tabard.

You can easily cap valor without doing dailies, you can get all the gear you will ever need by doing raids. You do not NEED to have the best possible item in every slot the first week. The problem with most of you is you use wowhead and say ´look there is an upgrade for me that requires revered´ and start saying it is ´required´.

Here is a hint.. ALL of the first bosses in MoP were killed using nothing but blue dungeon gear and whatever drops they happened to get in that raid prior to that boss. It is absolutely stupid to grind, or do something you hate to get a marginal temporary update to a piece of gear that barely impacts your dps. You are really telling me that having the GL epic neck will make or break your dps?

No, the problem is with your perception, not with the actual game. Learn to chill, accept that you won´t have every vanity mount until you are bored and want to do it. You don´t need to squeek out every possible upgrade unless you are one of those guilds that is 8/13 heroic right now.

Post by Adamsm

ofLegends, people have a right to post what they want. Azrile does make a point in regards to what Sephrain posted. He didn't quote you after all.

However, it's expected that this type of discussion is going to pop up whenever the term dailies and MoP are put together.

Momentai.

Post by Azrile

I also think it is important to realize there are a lot of players that enjoy different things. I am VERY indifferent about pvp, especially arena... but I never would post that the devs shouldn´t be making more BGs or Arena maps because I happen not to use them.

One of the big failures with Vanilla was the raid2play mentality that set in on the devs after a few patches. It became very apparent after Naxx 1.0 that there were a large number of players who didn´t want to raid, and weren´t being given content. Likewise, even today in MoP, I am sure there are hundreds of thousands of players who don´t even want to do LFR, and only stomach LFD.. in other words, there are a ton of players whose ONLY real gameplay is questing.

But I think the vast majority of players are similar to myself. I raid on some characters, do LFR on others, do heroic dunegons, do scenarios, and enjoy doing a hub or two of dailies now and then... it is the variety of things to do that keeps me playing. If I have a particularly frustrating time in LFR, then guess what, for the next few days maybe I will just stick to solo dailies.. And personally, even though I only do one or two hubs a day of dailies, I am glad there are 15 hubs, so I can ignore ones that annoy me that happened to come up that day.

But the biggest fallacy of all this, is the term ´required´ that gets thrown around. Raids were beaten without VP gear, my alts are raiding without rep gear... the ONLY dailies I do are the ones I want to do. The crafting items that come from reps can be bought for less than the mats to craft them. The ONLY reason anyone must do dailies is for vanity reasons.

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Post by Adamsm

Considering how they've been going with dailies as being part of the reps for the last 2 and a half expansions...I'd say yes, it's a good bet it's going to keep on going.

And really, with the addition of the commendations and the rep items this patch, as well as the work orders: It's a good addition. If you don't want to do them, lots of other ways to get geared up.

Post by Adamsm

/shrug I disagree; but then again, even after getting rep exalted, I still enjoy doing dailies so that's just one person's view. But as Blizzard is still trying to get people out of cities and out into the world at large, I have a feeling in the future that the 'better' gear will still be on faction vendors, same as it has always been. If people want that gear, they'll go for it.

Edit: Though I hope next time around they don't lock two other faction reps unlocking based upon rep with a third individual rep or if they do that, they add in more quests and have at least 10 dailies for that rep open from the start.

Would it be nice for Blizzard to add in some more gear? Sure why not. They didn't do that till very late in BC but hey, who knows what they have planned for us players.

Post by banokawow

While it is a grind to do the dailies for rep, it's also a great time to do all of the older content that has been abandoned by everyone else. I have been soloing old raids just to see if I can squeeze 1 more achievement out of them and gain rep with older factions.... I'm at 46 exalted now.

Post by ElhonnaDS

I personally didn't find it to be all that bad. I'd have been doing them anyway for the mounts, though, so it didn't affect my playstyle. My Boyfriend hated it though, because he doesn't do dailies ever. That being said, he just didn't do them. He ran LFR, and Sha, and had a couple of things crafted, and used that gear to run our normal raid nights and got his gear that way. I think that while doing dailies in MoP does speed up the gearing process, it's quite possible to skip them entirely and still get geared in a decent amount of time.

In terms of there being too many, I haven't had too much of an issue with the number. I picked 2-3 reps at a time to do dailies for, and there were definitely days I skipped them in favor of Skyrim, raiding, pet battles, not playing wow, etc. I finished well behind the guys in my guild who needed to have everything done ASAP. But I've finished all of them, and spent weeks with no dailies to do, except for the new ones for 5.2. I think that if you are of the mindset that you need to work on all of them right away, or of you have a bunch of alts who you'd want all maxed out on rep, then it probably is an overwhelming number of factions. But for a single toon, I didn't feel like it was an issue.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##ElhonnaDS##DELIM##

Does anyone else wish there were more to MoP than dailies?

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