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Post by
lankybrit
Hi,
I just browsed through all the Developer chats with fan-sites lately.
Not a single question about CRZ?
Way for fan-sites to ignore the Elephant in the Room. It was most likely part of the NDA they were forced to sign though.
'Ask any questions you want as long as they're not related to CRZ'
Cheers.
Post by
Nulgar
oooor nobody thought of anything more coherent that "meh, crz sucks". I doubt the sites wanted to convey whine disguised as questions.
Post by
lankybrit
Nah, fan-sites could have asked perfectly reasonable questions about it:
'Are you surprised with the negative reaction some people have given to Cross-Realm Zones? What are your plans for Cross-Realm zones in the future'.
Gives plenty of latitude for a Dev to answer in whatever way they want.
Cheers.
Post by
Adamsm
oooor nobody thought of anything more coherent that "meh, crz sucks". I doubt the sites wanted to convey whine disguised as questions.
^ This. The Devs have been up front about CRZ since the beginning, but since the haters of CRZ are more or less summed up as 'It's
my
server! Everyone else should GTFO!' it's not really worth covering that angle again and again.
Of course, all of the negative comments regarding CRZ can have the CRZ removed and the words 'welfare epics' 'dumbing down of WoW' etc etc etc and you'll still just get the same thing.
Post by
Atik
oooor nobody thought of anything more coherent that "meh, crz sucks". I doubt the sites wanted to convey whine disguised as questions.
^ This. The Devs have been up front about CRZ since the beginning, but since the haters of CRZ are more or less summed up as 'It's
my
server! Everyone else should GTFO!' it's not really worth covering that angle again and again.
Of course, all of the negative comments regarding CRZ can have the CRZ removed and the words 'welfare epics' 'dumbing down of WoW' etc etc etc and you'll still just get the same thing.
Welfare epics cause minions to despawn when crossing zone boundries? Or mobs to despawn after dying and leave no corpse to loot? Or nodes/wild pets to be visable while on a Flight Point, then vanish when you land?
Those three things are my only big problems with CRZ.
Post by
Br0tha
Nah, fan-sites could have asked perfectly reasonable questions about it:
'Are you surprised with the negative reaction some people have given to Cross-Realm Zones? What are your plans for Cross-Realm zones in the future'.
Gives plenty of latitude for a Dev to answer in whatever way they want.
Cheers.
You mean you want them to ask question they've already answered like every week since CRZ is out ?
Just check the official forum and you'll find the answer of all your question about the CRZ, even the one you just asked.
Post by
Lomedae
Welfare epics cause minions to despawn when crossing zone boundries? Or mobs to despawn after dying and leave no corpse to loot? Or nodes/wild pets to be visable while on a Flight Point, then vanish when you land?
Those three things are my only big problems with CRZ.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you actually experienced these things at least once, the original point still stands - CRZ is, together with bots, the whine FOTW of this expansion and they will be superseded by something else that everybody will get their panties in a twist over for no real rational reason in the future.
I have a lot of fun playing wow, I do not experience any of those minor inconveniences people whine about regarding CRZ, and if I did I would shrug and go on as they are really minor hassles at best. Lighten up folks, it's just a game and if it gives you no enjoyment then just for your own sake - go do something else for a (short) while.
Post by
yukonjack
Actually the issue of cfz's was addressed on the gamebreaker tv itnerview, you can find it here:
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/video-game-shows/world-of-warcraft-video/legendary-world-of-warcraft-show/exclusive-interview-with-blizzards-ghostcrawler/
GC says he admits to being bullheaded about cfz's (though honestly I pictured the feature coming from the other end of the bull) and that he is surprised it works at all.
Post by
331902
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Post by
yukonjack
just tell those jackasses to quit and play a single player game
They did, more then once actually. Throwing around buzzwords like entitled and hurling insults like jackasses really doesn't help foster any meaningful discussion. Please keep personal attacks out of it.
Post by
331902
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Post by
Azrile
The devs have already answered a million questions about CRZs. Here is a summary of all the complaints
1. It is too hard to get nodes and rare spawns ? Already answered - The game was not designed around you having an entire zone for yourself to farm ore. With other people in the zones, it is now working as intended
2. There is too much pvp on pvp servers? Already answered - Working as intended
3. There are strange things like getting booted from 2-seat vehciles, or duplicate chat - Already answered - Sorry, CRZs did come with a few bugs, we removed most of them and are working on the others.
CRZs are working great. If you were a new player you would be excited to play in a world where people are running everywhere and it looks so busy and exciting. Before CRZs, players would log in for the first time and play a single-player game for 3 months.
Post by
Azrile
Hi,
I just browsed through all the Developer chats with fan-sites lately.
Not a single question about CRZ?
Way for fan-sites to ignore the Elephant in the Room. It was most likely part of the NDA they were forced to sign though.
'Ask any questions you want as long as they're not related to CRZ'
Cheers.
Also, please grow up and stop trying to sound it... Do you even know what NDA stands for? Let me give you a hint.. nothing at all about restricting what questions can be asked.
Post by
yukonjack
just tell those jackasses to quit and play a single player game
They did, more then once actually. Throwing around buzzwords like entitled and hurling insults like jackasses really doesn't help foster any meaningful discussion. Please keep personal attacks out of it.
Claiming ownership of a zone and complaining that others are using that zone and taking YOUR resources makes you entitled. How else would you describe it?
It is not an insult it is an accurate description of their behavior.
So is jackass. Which admittedly IS an insult as well as being an accurate description of their behavior.
By the way you acting as a pseudo moderator doesn't do anything meaningful either.
If you take exception to my post report it and let a real mod do the job, otherwise keep your opinions to yourself.
That actually has nothing to do with it,but I won't go into it here as I have come to learn over the years anything that is even remotely critical of wow posted on wowhead is almost certain to be derided, marginalized and mocked with great vigor at every opportunity.
Last time I checked this was a public forum meant for the purpose of sharing opinions I was not aware that if they differed from yours we were to keep them to ourselves.
Post by
Azrile
That is mainly because people who have been playing WOW and frequent forums like this are used to, and get tired of, people way over-reacting to every little thing like it is the death of the game. You realize that CRZs only affect 1-85 zones? For veteran players, leveling an alt through those levels is extremely fast... for new players, CRZs are awesome for making the game feel alive.
Post by
H3Knuckles
Also,
yukonjack
, you need to understand that this is far from the first time the OP,
lankybrit
, has bitterly complained about CRZ's on this forum. There's at least 1 or 2 other threads where he argues for several pages about how terrible it is and how he can't play WoW anymore and he's going to quit. So forum regulars like
Entropyutd
aren't likely to have a lot of patience with him starting a whole new thread about it.
Personally, I kind of liked the single-player questing, group dungeons & pvp, massive hub city feel WoW had, but ultimately I could care less about CRZ's. When I play on PVE it's really only a minor inconvenience, and when I play on PVP I would want the challenge. Plus, it seems to me that ~90% of people's complaints about it are bugs that can be fixed, or balance issues (like resource node spawn rates) that can be adjusted, so CRZ itself isn't really the culprit of what they don't like, but rather how quickly Blizzard went live with it.
Post by
Adamsm
but rather how quickly Blizzard went live with it.
Aye, Blizzard should have had more then just four servers for Beta; would have allowed for a lot more testing on the CRZ.
Post by
Atik
Welfare epics cause minions to despawn when crossing zone boundries? Or mobs to despawn after dying and leave no corpse to loot? Or nodes/wild pets to be visable while on a Flight Point, then vanish when you land?
Those three things are my only big problems with CRZ.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you actually experienced these things at least once, the original point still stands - CRZ is, together with bots, the whine FOTW of this expansion and they will be superseded by something else that everybody will get their panties in a twist over for no real rational reason in the future.
I have a lot of fun playing wow, I do not experience any of those minor inconveniences people whine about regarding CRZ, and if I did I would shrug and go on as they are really minor hassles at best. Lighten up folks, it's just a game and if it gives you no enjoyment then just for your own sake - go do something else for a (short) while.
It seems pretty minor... until your pet despawns crossing the zone barrier and you get killed from it.
I've also occasionally encountered some crazy lag when getting off Flight Points, as the entire zone suddenly has to reload.
I feel like it would fix these issues if the
world
was Cross-realm, rather than individual zones. The new time it takes to load crossing between borders really hurts the one thing that used to set WoW apart; the world was just completely open, with no loading at all if you decided to walk from Booty Bay to Undercity.
Post by
331902
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Post by
lankybrit
What happened to goodbye and you quitting?
Don't become one of those bitter jerks who can't move on and take every chance to have a pop at Blizzard.
As pointed out several times, Blizzard have done nothing but address CRZs, There are no new questions to answer on the subject and the majority is a bunch of entitled whining about "MY Zone" which quite frankly I think they've shown a hell of a lot of reserve to not just tell those jackasses to quit and play a single player game.
So, calling me a jerk and a jackass.
Got it. Reported.
Cheers.(##RESPBREAK##)12##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##He didn't call you a jerk, he said don't become one... and he never called you a jackass, he was referring to people that call a zone "MY Zone" are jackasses, to which you have said that is not your position regarding CRZ.
So... making a post of this nature just to tell him you reported him isn't necessary and I decided to put a note here explaining why that report was declined.
Now, let's stay on topic so this doesn't escalate any further. Thank you.
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