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Are Fury warriors bad dps?
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Timmeh
Fury is probably the most scalable spec in the game at the moment. At the top gear levels, fury warriors can do obscene damage, significantly more than arms. It is not, however well tuned for low gear levels, which means that when you hit 80, arms will allow you to do more damage until you reach roughly mid-ulduar levels of gearing.
That said, it's not a broken spec even at these low gear levels, it just has a bit less potential than arms. If you can live with doing 5-10% less damage when you ding, fury will see you fine.
In PvP, fury is very susceptible to RNG. While all classes rely on crit-strings and similar for burst, fury is even more prone to it due to bloodsurge. When the numbers are with you, you can slice through just about anything like a hot knife through butter, if they aren't, you'll have more problems. I quite often play my fury offspec and PvE gear in battlegrounds for a bit of fun and tend to come out well, even without the survivability PvP gear provides.
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Fnitrox
I did a couple of heroics yesterday with my shammy and a guildie using his pally. We usually use our dps specs in heroics and always try to see who's doing higher dps.
But yesterday i was healing and he was tanking, so we didn't really bother about the recount, but then one of the dps whispered me and said "Where the hell did you find that warrior?"...seeing he was fury and how bad everybody complains about fury warriors at first I tought he was sucking...
When i took a look at recount i saw him doing about 4k dps overall and around 5k dps on bosses...and he wasn't really geared in ulduar stuff...just ilvl 200-213 not even a single item from ToC...
so i guess that it could depends on skill and on the unusual spec he had, but if you like fury just don't bother and play it :P
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Rubendesmet619
trash=aoe
bos=pop CD's.
I have fury dual spec for 5-mens only til I get the gear to use it in raids.
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Fakir
I haven't played my warrior since 3.1, then I gave it a spin for the last few days, stacked arp like hell, got 56% arp as fury now.
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Korruptive
Even though my AP is a little low, the ArP more than makes up for it, having so much arp increases my rage generation a lot I've noticed.
I hate to ruin it for you, but you would have benefittet more from gemming strength instead of ArP. As fury specced, fighting in berserker stance, you miss out on the ArP from battel stance and hence need even more ArP from your gear before gemming for ArP gives better DPS than gemming for strength. I loaded your gear into Landsoul's DPS spreadsheet and the result was that even with all those ArP gems of yours ArP still had a SEP slightly lower than 1. You can argue that the difference between gemming like you did and gemming strength would only be approximately 10 DPS, but still.....
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Timmeh
Landsoul is not gemmed for ArP at all, he's gemmed to hit the expertise cap, then for strength. The reason for this is that he has Mjolnir Runestone equipped which gives around 55% ArP when it procs. This would mean that for every point over 45% ArP you go with gear, you are wasting itemisation, as it will cut off at 100% with the proc. It is possible to reach 100% through gear, but you generally lose too much in terms of other stats in doing so at current levels of itemisation.
Having roughly 50% ArP is fine, but you NEED to combine it with Mjolnir Runestone or Grim Toll, else... well, I wouldn't say it's not worth having, but strength gives more benefit, both on gear and in terms of gems.
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Fakir
If you are getting that armor penetration is worse than strength from Landsoul's spreadsheet, then I would guess that you are doing something wrong,
Belive me, I'm not. Load Korruptives gear in the spreadsheet and see for yourself.
as Landsoul is doing the exact opposite of what you are saying and he even posted on Elitist Jerks in the fury warrior thread that it would be possible with the new 3.2 to gear to obtain higher DPS by reaching the armor penetration cap without using Grim Toll or the Mjolnir Runestone.
That is true - but then 56% ArP is not enough to aquire the higher DPS (without those trinkets) he's talking about. All according to Landsoul's spreadsheet ofc.
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Porcell
You will find that 3.2 your glancing hits increased a lot therefore less damage and I found that I would get rage staved due to the increased number of glanceing blows.
Evidence?
Glancing blows are a flat 24% chance on all white hits. 3.2 did nothing to change this.
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Porcell
Try it and see for yourself i was averageing well over 40% glanceing blows
I also thought that this was wrong so had others check my glanceing blows all showed the same between 39%-48%
XT-002 Hard Mode from yesterday:
DK, 7346 DPS, 26.2% glancing blows
Rogue, 7343 DPS, 25.3% glancing blows
Rogue, 7293 DPS, 22.0% glancing blows
Shaman, 7160 DPS, 24.7% glancing blows
Rogue, 6739 DPS, 24.3% glancing blows
Fury Warrior, 6426 DPS, 21.1% glancing blows
Fury Warrior, 5556 DPS, 25.5% glancing blows
Ret Paladin, 5434 DPS, 21.8 glancing blows
Arms Warrior, 4611 DPS, 22.2% glancing blows
DK Tank, 2927 DPS, 20.4% glancing blows
I can post the WMO link if you want... I have a lot of other boss fights if you want even more data.
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